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How would Hoh Kah Leong interpret Goh Chok Tong's resignation after being elected in GE 1991?

February 21
00:38 2012

the following is Mr Low Thia Khiang’s response to Forum letter on Lianhe Zaobao. 刘程强答覆早报读者来信

 

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感谢何家良君今天在联合早报交流站所发表《我对饶欣龙事件的解读》,关心工人党,认为工人党的决定是仓促和草率的。

首先,工人党在传媒报道有关谣言到决定开除饶欣龙,接近一个月的时间。饶欣龙始终不出来表态,也拒绝向中央执委解释。工人党在别无选择之下,依据工人党党章第22(a)条开除他,何来仓促草率?

第二,虽然我和饶欣龙共事多年,但对于报章对他的指控,我和党选举委员会成员之前都毫不知情。如我在记者招待会上所说,“工人党有一套遴选候选人的制度,我跟饶欣龙的关系基本上是在党工作上的关系”。(二月十六日,早报第四页) 我虽然对饶欣龙的背景有所认识,也见过他的家人和出席他两段婚姻的典礼,但我无法也无权力调查个人的隐私和私生活。我是国会议员,不是私家侦探!何家良君说我应该对饶欣龙事件负责,请问我应该怎么负责?

第三,我同意国会选举是严肃的事,且又是“耗费大量财力、人力和物力的事”。如果这次工人党为了饶欣龙不负责任、丧失公信力而开除他,因此造成补选,是“滥用此民主制度的行径”;在1992年,当时的吴作栋总理自动辞职,造成马林百列集选区补选。请问何家良君对身为一国总理在1991年大选中选後辞去国会议席来举行补选又有何解读呢?

刘程强
工人党秘书长,阿裕尼集选区国会议员

备注:
依据新明日报2012年2月20日的报导透露,作者何家良就是前高级政务次长。


Translated Text of the letter to Lianhe Zaobao dated 18 Feb 2012
To: The Editor of the Lianhe Zaobao Forum Page

I thank Mr He Jialiang for his Zaobao forum letter (“My interpretation of the matters regarding Yaw Shin Leong”, 18 Feb 2012), showing his concern for the Workers’ Party (WP). Mr He was of the opinion that the WP’s decision was a rash and hurried one.

Firstly, almost a month had passed between the first media allegations and the WP’s decision to expel Mr Yaw Shin Leong. Mr Yaw continued to remain silent on the matter, and refused to account to the WP Central Executive Council (CEC). The WP had no choice but to invoke clause 22(a) of the WP Constitution to expel him. In what way was this decision rash and hurried?

Secondly, although I have worked with Mr Yaw for many years, the members of the Party’s election committee and I had no knowledge of the allegations about him. As I said during the media conference, “The Workers’ Party has a system to select its candidates, and my relationship with Mr Yaw is basically a working relationship within the Party.” (16 Feb 2012, Zaobao page 4.) Although I know Mr Yaw’s background, have met his family, and attended the wedding ceremonies of his two marriages, I have neither the means nor the right to investigate his private matters and private life. I am a Member of Parliament, not a private investigator! Mr He said that I should take responsibility for the matters regarding Mr Yaw. May I know how he thinks I should take responsibility?

Thirdly, I agree that an election is a serious matter, and it “expends a large amount of money, manpower and resources”. If the WP has “abused the democratic system” by causing a by-election, as a result of expelling Mr Yaw due to his failure to account to the Party and loss of public trust, then consider the events of 1992, when the then-Prime Minister Goh Chok Tong voluntarily resigned and caused a by-election in Marine Parade GRC. May I ask Mr He how would he interpret the matter of a Prime Minister resigning from his Parliamentary seat after being elected in the 1991 General Elections to trigger a by-election?

Low Thia Khiang
Secretary-General, Workers’ Party
MP for Aljunied GRC


Note: It was later revealed in Shin Min Daily News report on 20 Feb 2012, that the writer He Jialiang is the former Senior Parliamentary Secretary, Mr Ho Kah Leong

 
  • Kampong boy

    Wow!

    He actually purposely resigned to cause a by election!

  • Kampong boy

    Wow!

    He actually purposely resigned to cause a by election!

  • ?views?

    not sure if kampong boy knows how to read?
    Goh Chok Tong voluntarily resigned and caused a by-election in Marine Parade GRC
    voluntarily turn into purposely?
    its the voluntair resignation that caused a by election. and…. a PAP resign does them no good too…

  • ?views?

    not sure if kampong boy knows how to read?
    Goh Chok Tong voluntarily resigned and caused a by-election in Marine Parade GRC
    voluntarily turn into purposely?
    its the voluntair resignation that caused a by election. and…. a PAP resign does them no good too…

  • Richard

    Volunteering is usually done on purpose – except in the army and similiar organisations where people may "get volunteered". 

  • Richard

    Volunteering is usually done on purpose – except in the army and similiar organisations where people may "get volunteered". 

  • Kampong boy

    You have to have a propose to do something voluntarily, no?

    You mean you voluntarily do something without a purpose?

  • Kampong boy

    You have to have a propose to do something voluntarily, no?

    You mean you voluntarily do something without a purpose?

  • HKL, of all people.

    The reason why the emeritus called a by election in 1992 is to bring in Teo Chee Hean. Back then, GRC is a superb way of getting new people in given the weakness of opposition. Can we consider this as draining valueable resources from the state. It is the ultimately the citizens that are paying for the show. How can one accept a reason that calling the by-election is to get a mandate when it was held just a year back?

  • HKL, of all people.

    The reason why the emeritus called a by election in 1992 is to bring in Teo Chee Hean. Back then, GRC is a superb way of getting new people in given the weakness of opposition. Can we consider this as draining valueable resources from the state. It is the ultimately the citizens that are paying for the show. How can one accept a reason that calling the by-election is to get a mandate when it was held just a year back?

  • Kampong boy

    Oh!

    Mr Teo was helicoptored in?!!!

  • Kampong boy

    Oh!

    Mr Teo was helicoptored in?!!!

  • mice is nice

    dear Richard,
     
    dun forget schools also have "volunteers" (like selling charity stickers) who may not be able to say no!
     
    kenna arrowed, really no meaning!  XD

  • mice is nice

    dear Richard,
     
    dun forget schools also have "volunteers" (like selling charity stickers) who may not be able to say no!
     
    kenna arrowed, really no meaning!  XD

  • Sean

    The tug politics…. PAP at their best…. shoving all their dirty skeletons underneath the bed… who knows how many skeletons you can find if power is taken away from them? God has eyes…. 

  • Sean

    The tug politics…. PAP at their best…. shoving all their dirty skeletons underneath the bed… who knows how many skeletons you can find if power is taken away from them? God has eyes…. 

  • Houganian

    For those who are not old enough, GCT resigned to force a by-election in order to admit fomer Chief of Navy Teo Chee Hean into parliament via his then sure-to-win Marine Parade GRC. He was even able to carve our Macpherson in order for mathias yao to fight against chee soon juan. That is how far it was done, acts that trivialize elections and make a mockery of assertions by today's PM that by-elections serious matters and there are other issues on the national agenda now. Are we playing with different rules or level of the field now versus 1991? By-elections then are more trivial? Maybe just cut Hougang up and distribute to Pasir Ris Aljunied and Marine Parade GRCs. 

  • Houganian

    For those who are not old enough, GCT resigned to force a by-election in order to admit fomer Chief of Navy Teo Chee Hean into parliament via his then sure-to-win Marine Parade GRC. He was even able to carve our Macpherson in order for mathias yao to fight against chee soon juan. That is how far it was done, acts that trivialize elections and make a mockery of assertions by today's PM that by-elections serious matters and there are other issues on the national agenda now. Are we playing with different rules or level of the field now versus 1991? By-elections then are more trivial? Maybe just cut Hougang up and distribute to Pasir Ris Aljunied and Marine Parade GRCs. 

  • Ontheroad

    Ho Kah Leong now Mr Low of WP is asking how do you interpret, Goh chok tong by-election.waiting for your reply pls don’t”chui tart LAN “pls reply him with a good one thankyou in advance.

  • Ontheroad

    Ho Kah Leong now Mr Low of WP is asking how do you interpret, Goh chok tong by-election.waiting for your reply pls don’t”chui tart LAN “pls reply him with a good one thankyou in advance.

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  • Redemption

    That’s a very good rebuttal by LTK!

  • Wah lan

    Really shit into the mouth of ho kah keong! I wonder why he used He Jialinag? Is he trying to misled the people?

  • Foot In Mouth

    HKL has actually managed to put his foot into his own mouth! 

  • damn blur

    Why has TOC witheld my comment ?

  • skponggol

    According to Pritam Singh, WP CEC voted to expel Yaw after they realise that the media had gotten hold of information which they did not have, ie the number of women, etc….
     
    This show that WP's decision to expel Yaw as not made voluntary and was dictated by outside forces. It is obvious that the panicked WP leaders had made such a rash and hurried decision based on unknown information held by the media, even though they had chosen to keep Yaw as MP just less than a week earlier.
     
    Moreover, Pritam Singh is giving an impression that Yaw would not have been expelled if they jad known the facts, ie the number and names of women whom he had slept with, etc….Just what kind of sleazy image is Pritan trying to project for the WP ?

  • Kampong boy

    Sometimes the pap members or supporters accused the wp for taking a long time to sack yaw.

    At other times they accused it for making a rash decision.

    What a flip flopping government we are having!

  • Maggot

    There's bound to have black sheep in any organisation. It happened to the ruling party before. The then PM was not asked to take responsibilty for his action.

  • nooneisperfect

    to skponggol,
    no one is perfect.  one does make mistakes in life.  it is how one handles the mistake that is important.  For this case, i think WP can still accept Yaw if he is willing to account for his alleged actions.  But Yaw did not take up the opportunity to do so.  So, imo WP sacked him due to his failure to account, not merely based on the alleged affairs with other woman (women).

  • skponggol

    …..
    Low Thia Khiang may claim to be unaware of Yaw Shin Leong's private live, but he should know his leadership character after working closely with him for over 10 years.
     

    Yaw had quit and abandoned his duty and constituents and became a self-styled "fugitive" not for any criminal offences but for mere ALLEGED UNPROVEN ADULTERY ???!!!
     

    This is unprecendented and unheard of not only in Singapore but also the world.
     

    This coward has no basic moral courage and zero human responsibility. This is the worse leader one can ever have imagined. This JOKER has put the nation to shame and mockery.
     

    Yet this clown has been the WP senior party leader for over 10 years, involved in all their top-level activities and decision-making. How can Low fail to suspect and detect his utter lack of leadership quality ??? One does not need to be a private investigator to detect this kind of  "leadership" quality.
     

    Worse, there are still people in WP CEC supporting Yaw against his expulsion and there are over 10 senior party veterans rushing down to Hougang during Yaw's MPS to cheer him and to demonstrate a show of force against the party leaders.
     

    This political comedy just shows that Low has a very poor judgment on people. As long as he continues to deny his error and shift all the blame to his ex-protege, WP will continue to produce Yaw II, Yaw III, etc…. 
     
    …..

  • dada

    Everyone can choose sides and who to believe, its perfectly alright as we are all emotional creatures. But no matter what external cause it may be, one truth remains and that is WP's action was in fact swift & decisive. A 6-7 months deliberation is so common with the any of our gahmen investigations which usually downplayed the seriousness of any issue by the end of the inquiry.

  • message

    Check-mate!
    It is getting to be a habit for WP to check-mate the PAP, it shows something:
    1) The calibre of the PAP leadership is low, and this is evidenced by all the flawed policies singaporeans has uncovered and is still uncovering.
    2)The quality of the WP leadership is 1st world standard, despite their obvious lack of resources vis a vis PAP.  It helps that they are good chess players…both chinese chess as well as english chess:)
    3)The third possibility is that the Truth speaks for itself.  The party that calls a spade a spade, is transparent and upright and respects and appreciate ordinary citizens participation in nation building will be the one that smells like a rose.

  • thaikapon

    To skponggolhe ,
    The ex-President was in ruling party for  many years working closely with senior mambers of the ruling party. But nobody even the then PM himself knew that he was a heavy drinker.
     

  • skponggol

    To thaikapon,
     
    Like Low, PAP leaders may also be unaware of the ex-President's private live, ie heavy drinker…
     
    But unlike Low, PAP leaders know that the ex-President has strong leadership character who would not chicken out as proven bis his many years of track record.
     
    Now, it has come to surface that Yaw, as accused by his former boss and former GE2006 team-mates in AMK GRC, is an irresponsible person.
     
    Yet Low continue to trust him and promote him after 10 years of closely working with him. You don't have to be genius to figure out that your colleagues have very poor work ethics.

  • Deatheater

    Ho Kah Leong would have been a famous painter if he's worth his salt.

  • prettyplace

    LTK caught HKL 'by the balls'. I wonder HKL will ever respond.

  • mel

    For Accountablity and Transparency, WP took the painful decision to sack YSL.  What has the ruling party done for those who made /commit a mistake?…I remember vaguely that PM Lee once said …..he will give the him/her some "face saving" by giving him a quiet exit..thus saving "face" and avoid media attention. This equal to sweeping it under the carpet, or I shall say to cover up. One can easily name a few.
    3 cheers to WP! for setting a new standard toward a 1st world Parliament!
     

  • Jurong Oldtimer

    Ho Kah Leng is remember as the useless MP of Jurong many years ago by many in Jurong and he now speaks?  Many oldtimers know he appeared in town only when he was invited to dinner.  He basically did nothing for the residents for well over 10years!  Useless bump!

  • Kenny

    To Skponggol
    This only show how Yaw has manage to deceive everyone. Please do note that while all these accusations are thrown to Yaw, Yaw has done work for the people of Hougang. I, myself has seen him many times with his wife in Hougang and they are alway friendly, humble and very sincere in helping the people of hougang. Do you know him personally? Have you seen him or LTK personally? If you did, you would have understand why many residents of Hougang think that while he has some flaws in his characters, he genuiely care for the people of Hougang. He has done 10 years of works, not 10 days. 
    However, saying that, WP has given him time again and again to come clean with them. Yet Yaw chose to stay silent and eventually leave Singapore. Would anyone think its better for WP to stay quiet and act like the ruling party? 
    For those people who came out now to accuse Mr. Yaw of whatever they claim he has done, it is easy now to point finger as there is no one to prove anything or Yaw is not around to clarify. Why didnt they come out when he was campaigning during the election or when Yaw was the MP? If back then they stay silent, then why come out now? Because they know Yaw will not refute their accusation?
    To do what they have done, WP risk internal party rife, popularity cut and criticism (as what is happening now) but they choose to go ahead with what they have decided. ask yourself, can you do it if it comes to you? 
    Sometimes it is easy to talk and accuse but when the time comes for yourself to face the fire, how many people can truly say they can and they will. 

  • kampong boy

    When that pap minister was investigated for corruption and then committed suicide, did the then prime minister take responsibility?

    I also wonder how much did the then prime minister know about that minister’s character and for how long he had known about his sideline and side-income activities.

    Is it for as long as LTK knew about Yaw’s affairs?

  • Thaikapon

    To skponggol,
    Yes you are right  . Yaw did not act responsibly when questioned about his alleged affairs but we also can say LTK might not know his true colours even they have been working closely together for about 10 years  because  Yaw would probably act like he was very responsible and hardworking one  in front of his boss. Who knows he turned out to be a trash.Unless LTK would do a background check with his friends or business associates about his characters. As LTK said in his letter  " I have neither the means nor the right to investigate his private matters and private life" So I feel that benifit of doubts shold be given to LTK as well….

  • He Jialak

    Mr Low has done the right thing, morally and politically. A strong gesture.

  • skponggol

    To Thaikapon,
     
    Yaw was a senior party leader, not mere ordinary member, for over 10 years. He was involved in all the top-level activities and decision-making.
     
    He would have shown his true colour and work ethics with all those responsibilties and all those years. Any ordinary human being would have figured out whether their fellow colleagues have proper work ethics after working with them for few months.
     
    Yet you claim that Low still needs background checks, testimonials or certificate to find out if Yaw has proper work ethics after working with him closely for over 10 years ???!!!  
     
    Low has worked with Yaw very closely for over 10 years, yet he fail to suspect and detect his lack of leadership character, promoted and finally entrusted Hougang to him.
     
    Low does not need to be a private dectective nor a rocket scientist to judge Yaw's flaw leadership.

  • We Want Answer

    HO Kah Leong, please respond to LTK's 3rd question.

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  • RC

    skponggol,
    what has having a relationship with another woman got to do with leadership quality?  Your mind is running riot and having a good time at it, that's what I can see.
    Based on your illogical argument, there should then be no such thing as divorce since being in the same bed for years should make one completely aware of the spouse's actions and behaviours?
    Either you are still a kid or you are senile. Please, exercise some logical reasoning here.

  • http://na Diabolical

    @ LTK

    “I am a Member of Parliament, not a private investigator!”

    This is just stupid of LTK. If LTK & the WP as a whole had any reasonable doubt as to Yaw Shin Leong’s (egregious) behaviour, it oould have tasked PRIVATE INVESTIGATORS to do checks on him…….no need for LTK to PERSONALLY investigated.

    “Mr He said that I should take responsibility for the matters regarding Mr Yaw. May I know how he thinks I should take responsibility?”

    Hello LTK, as the Secretary-General of the WP, the BUCK STOPS WITH YOU.

    “Thirdly, I agree that an election is a serious matter, ………. May I ask Mr He how would he interpret the matter of a Prime Minister resigning from his Parliamentary seat after being elected in the 1991 General Elections to trigger a by-election?”

    That’s a GOOD REBUTTAL

    @ Ho Kah Leong

    I don’t know what Ho Kah Leong actually wrote, but LTK’s rebuttal shows what I have already said many times that the PAP MPs are not what the propaganda msm leads sinkies to believe that they – PAP MPs – are as great. In this case, it shows Ho Kah Leong severely lacks critical thinking skills.

  • David

    Parliamentary secretary turned reporters. This is no wonder every pieces of news came out from Xin Ming smell worse than the dog shit.  Gosh!! is there no indepdendent reporters in all SPH papers?  Come on! Singapore deserved objective, unbias news and stop hounding WP when PAP has more than enough skeletons to share to the world. 

  • iBLOCKahGOHwoodhead

    ahGoh the woodhead cum blockhead says many thinggie in the past..he promised us a swiss gateau for tea..but endup with a recycled french snail sandwich
    he also says we are world numero uno in sport and guranteed us a spot in worldcup 2010
    and last butt not least he says do not be a QUIITTER lived and die in singapoor..but his daughter lived in britain…

  • Damn

    Mr Ho KL, please offer a response to LTK's question or Perhaps our Dear Emeritus could come out to clear the air on his then resignation and by-election!

  • skponggol

    RC,
     
    I say that Yaw quitting and abandoning his duty and constituents without proper explanation and for mere unproven allegation show that he has extremely poor leadership character.
     
    Please read carefully and don't put your own words in.

  • thaikapon

    There will be no end debating who is right and who is wrong We will leave  it to Hougang residents to decide If they still want WP to represent them in the by-election….

  • mice is nice

    well, i've been living in S'pore for so many years, also dunno PAP MP & ministers personally, neither their family members or what they do in their private lives.
     
    must the public now demand they know that level of personal details of our parliamentarians? then the 1st volunteer should be minister Khaw since he say "there is no difference between a person's personal life and professional life once he or she enters politics,…." . not sure if other PAP MP or minister shares the same view anot.
     
    how did the urban legend of $8 heart bypass surgery whch details remained a mystery. how to account for this? the old will be very happy to pay just $8 for it if they needed.
    http://singaporedesk.blogspot.com/2011/05/reprise-of-8-heart-bypass.html
     
    keke, quite off-topic already…

  • Lau Goh

    Didn't Goh Keng Swee himself commit adultery?
    Didnt Goh Ken Yi (grandson) get involved with his own school teacher leading to the teacher's husband to divorce her?
    Surely what is good for the goose is good for the gender?
    Will all MPs (past and present)  be required to make a statutory declaration on their marital affairs?
     
     

  • Playing Dirty

    It's very obvious who is trying to play dirty by the continuous attacks on WP recently. The mainstream media seems to have nothing to report except the WP saga. Singaporeans are smarter now and these attacks may only backfired. As for those who keep on supporting the lawsuit kings online, mayb they are those same "50 cents" groups that operate in China. Even Malaysia has "50 cents" group now so why not Singapore?

  • ‘Mat

     

  • All Sgreans incl PAPayas

    If Ho Ka Liong is so concerned about the few miserable dollars to be spent on the by-election why isn't he upset about the multiple millions that have been wasted in paying the undeserved salaries of his PAPayas for decades?
    Ah Ho, can you please wake up from your deep slumber?
     

  • Law TK spewing nonsense!

    Low Thia Khiang is living in a state of denial.  From his description of his relationship with Yaw and being his protege, he is being disingenuous to to satate that he was not aware of his "best-friend' behaviours.
    If he cannot even know the person who was so close to him, how can we ever expect him to understand issues and make good judgements for/of peoples.  He would fail as a politician.
     

  • mice is nice

    sometimes even husband or wife dunno the other cheat on them, just like the case involving SCDF & CNB with the married woman. counting the online vice trade involving a former school principal & some other high ranking civil servants, add SLA $12 million fraud case, does this mean govt going to collapse?
     
    lol…

  • http://Website(optional) iworkhardsometimes

    what are the odds of Mr Hoh Kah Leong demanding Mr Lee Kuan Yew to take responsibility for the Teh Cheang Wan saga?

  • http://Website(optional) iworkhardsometimes

    @ skponggol

    what are the odds of you demanding Mr Lee Kuan Yew to take responsibility for the Wee Toon Boon saga?

  • JME

    Ho Kah Leong is a jackass… shot himself in the foot with such a question and openning a bigger can of worms… these retired PAP chaps have an uncanny ability to shoot themselves in the foot….

  • To be Fair

    Why are those again WP so unreasonable ?
     DPM Teo mentioned during parliament that people change over the years as such is difficult to make judgment during the CPIB probe cases, so if  LTK have to make responsible even he already mentioned he is not aware of Yaw case, then why no one ask the Ministry in charge of MHA to take responsible of the CPIB cases ?

  • To be Fair

    Is now up to PAP whether they have gut to stand into the ring with WP and let the Hougang residents to make the judgment.

  • hahahaha

    HKL was once a PAP 'roof roof'. Still enjoying the perks, bopian must write something to BS in the news lah…pity the old guy.

  • Tracy Tan

    Excellent rebuttal by LTK abt GCT's by-election at MP.  Now PAP is cornered.
    The past has always come back to haunt the PAP
     

  • Watching & Listening

    @Iiworkhardsometimes,
    Good rebuttal.
    @skponggol where are u?  @iworkhardsometimes is waiting.
     

  • iEATviagra

     
    Law TK spewing nonsense!21 February 2012

    Low Thia Khiang is living in a state of denial.  From his description of his relationship with Yaw and being his protege, he is being disingenuous to to satate that he was not aware of his "best-friend' behaviours.
    …………………………………….
    do YOU know YOUR broinlaw sexual urge or not? afterall he married YOUR sister….
    talk is easy..even the primemister dunno his younger brother sexual urge….

     

  • Harry Li

    Mr Ho Kah Leong should respond to Mr Low question on GCT resignation. Permit me to repeat Mr.Low T.K. question, Mr Ho, "How do you interpret Goh C.T 's resignation? Many of us are waiting for your answer.

  • http://TOCSingapore Edward

    Ho KL has already forgotten that one of the candidates for the T Pagar GRC during the 2011 GE declined nomination at the last minutes because of some serious  allegations made by a few females. The PAP with so much resources at their disposal also made mistake in selecting political candidates. HO KL are you senile?

  • a little bit of soap

    Why is Ho Kah Leong hiding behind a pseudo name? Is he scared like the rest to come out in the open? or after years under his master's tutelage, he has been ingrained to be silent unless told otherwise?

  • DavidLKSee

    PUT SIMPLY:
     
    (1)  The PAP Dirty Pot calling Other Kettles Black !!!
     
    (2)  The clueless/hopeless PAP Govt shamelessly preaching their so-called  whiter-than-white, holier-than-thou  "virgin-pure values"  of  honesty, integrity, transparency, accountability, level playing field….etc, etc…blah,blah….
     
     

  • Nico

    Some people are really not making sense here on their remarks. If LTK knew YSL's affair, will he still let him stand on Hougang SMC? Wen if he really wants, he will put him in GRC what so if he really got exposed then can hold on to GRC without by election. 
    Why would LTK put YSL'S in Hougang if he knew?  Use backside to think also can tell. Alamak. 

  • Truedirect

    Kah Leong, please don't see things in coloured glasses and apply those double standards.
     

  • Ah Gong

    The alleged affair may well been ended but Yaw trusted the wrong pastor who was pro-PAP to confess to……

  • nhy

    HKL is a clown he never ask the PM IN 1992 BY-ELECTION SPENDING but now asking supid question

  • Eugene

    Ho Kah!!! Hoo  Kahhh!!!! Hooooo Kahhhhh Leoooong!!! Answer LTK rebuttal. Why did Woody Goh resigned in 1992 wasting people's time and money.
    When papigs do it is in the interest of the people but when opposition do it is waste of money. Good Logic.

  • http://Website(optional) iworkhardsometimes

    i am amazed that Mr Low Thia Kiang is being so polite and kind to Mr Ho.

    let me quote Mr Ho ad verbatim: “而补选又要花费大笔公款”
    (source:http://www.zaobao.com.sg/yl/yl120218_007.shtml)

    “公款” is public money

    Calling for a by-election ultimately lies solely on the discretion of the Prime Minister.

    it is laughable to dig a hole for the Prime Minister in advance by saying that calling for by-election expends a large amount of money, manpower and resources.
    (耗费大量财力、人力和物力的事)

    if the Prime Minister decides to call for a by-election, isn’t the PM immediately guilty of deciding to expend a large amount of money, manpower, resources & public monies even when he can choose not to?

    高手出招真实匪夷所思,了不起,了不起。高, 真高。

  • Freddy

    何博士, 看来你的艺术生活应该过得顶闷的! 所以想回到政治舞台奏热闹! 有空就去开画展, 找几个朋友捧捧场. 别自讨没趣. 批评别人时看看自家是否有更多比别人更不光彩的臭事. 你们最拿手的就是双重标准. 最厉害的就是死不认错.

  • oms

    Think about it…saving $16p/m? If Hougang can go without an MP, then can consider to reduce the numbers of MPs per GRC. Again, Hougang voters have the great vision to vote for Yaw. With his mistake made, everyone doing a soul reflection or maybe, God(s) making good of the mistake made

  • al

    Wee Toon Boon, Phey Yew Kok, Teh Cheang Wan, Choo Wee Khiang….the list goes on. Ho Kah Leong, I thought you questioned WP's selection process? I thought PAP had many layers of interviews before they select their top-notch MPs? Eat your words Mr Ho. Stay out of politics. This internet age is not for you. Concentrate on your drawings, on being an artist. You will do better. You won't make a mockery of yourself that way. You will also keep whatever little respect that you still have in Singaporeans.

  • Message

    Now that is really shooting themselves in the foot. Besides that it also demonstrates PAP's lack of respect for Singaporeans to think that they can get away with this accusation and believing, naively, that WP will be on the defensive.
    I bet PAP did not see that one coming, shows how short sighted they are.  The more you try to bring WP down  the more your lack of professionalism shows up.
    Just get on with your job of governing singapore and by the good policies, you will be re-elected.  Singaporeans are not stupid, they have ears to hear and eyes to see.
     

  • I’m Singaporean

    @Mice is Nice, I agree with you.
    Will the ministers tell us how much bonus they get?

  • BillyMa

    What a joke!!
    All the PAP ministers & MPs dare not speak out about this issue that the PM has to dig out this old PAP fellow to comment.
    Strange that this old PAP fellow never talk about the plights of singaporeans after he stepped down but suddenly found the time & energy to talk about this issue – which has no impact to the livelihood of Singaporeans.
    If this old PAP fellow is so keen then he should also comment on the 2 top cops that were caught recently as well.
    But no, this old PAP fellow is only interest in the oppositions.
    Can singaporeans be blamed to think that this is nothing but PAP playing pilitics.
    These old PAP fellows are still enjoying the benefits of the PAP, so it's no wonder that they're retired but ever ready to open their mouths when ordered.
     
     
     

  • mice is nice

    dear i'm Singaporean,
     
    i think S'poreans really want to know those ministers who Epic Fail still get how much bonus. others who deserve their bonus, people wun care so much, cos blood wun boil.
     
    hope S'pore dun become like Wall Street, banks can collapse but bankers insist in their bonuses… the ugly side of embracing capitalism blindly & giving it too much freedom to dictate policies that revolve around itself.

  • jurong porter

    now,who cares about what ho kah leong says;he is a has-been.
    but,what has ho kah leong got to say about eating back his own words or he prefer to defend gct's similar stunt?
    ho ho chor lang,diam diam ho boh.

  • fair-minded

    Ho Kah Leong knows that the PAP will be humiliated once again in Hougang come by-election,hence his comments.
    When the saga came to light,the PAP was chuckling secretly.But when the WP took the right  action by sacking that "pondan",LHL now  has a headache.
    How deeply does the PAP probe into its potential candidates?

  • Peter

    Enough said about the unfortunate Yaw affair by both the PAP and the WP supporters.  Let us now quickly hold the by-election so as to refer to the people to decide which party is more convincing in their arguments and which party is more trusted by the people.
    Cost of the by-election is not an issue because it is miniscule compared to the Minister's salary.
    Time is also not too big an issue because we can dispense with the by-election using the nine day rule(including Saturdays, Sundays and public holidays) between nomination and election, which the govt has applied all along.
    Democracy will be the biggest issue if the by-election is suspended for too long. No other national agenda should take precedence over a democratic election in a democratic country.  Suspending the by-election over the four and a half years of life still left in this parliamentary term is almost as bad as suspending a general election.  Singapore must not end up like the Philippines when ex-President Marcos used martial law to suspend the general election on the pretext that he had more overriding national agenda.
    Let us now quickly hold the by-election and move on with enhanced unity and harmony among all Singaporeans, whatever the outcome.
     

  • message

    The PM should spend less time trying to FIX opposition and more time fixing the economy, fixing the housing problem, fixing the "ponding" situation, fixing the messy social problems resulting from existing lot of FT, fixing the transport problems, fixing disconnect between high ministerial salaries and citizens' income level, fixing the rich poor divide, fixing the scholarship to FT issue, etc, etc.  
    Acceptance of Budget2012 does not mean that problems are fixed, for you do not throw money at a problem and expect it to be resolved immediately.  Money alone cannot and will not solve all problems, evidence the high ministerial pay and low ministerial performance.

  • marboktan

    Ho Kah Leong,
    Were you not the Bozo in the PAP circus?
    Go into full rehearsal and come up with another joke when answering to LTK.

  • Manfred

    I am utterly disgusted with the MSM for their relentless reporting/commenting on the Yaw affair.  In my 50 over years of reading the MSM, I have never seen such an extensive coverage of alleged indiscretions by an individual and the related political commentaries.  Why? Just because he is a member of the Opposition Party and an MP.  The MSM has really shown its true colours of why it exists although many Singaporeans always knew about it and still do.  When will Singapore see an alternative Newspaper that will present fairer coverage and unbiased reporting.

  • A lesson for Hougang!!

    I am concur fully with PM Lee that the by-election for HG does not deserve priority over other more pressing national issues, and moreover, delaying the by-election will serve a lesson on 60% who caved in to WP empty rhetorics in GE 2011.  The delay will give them time to reflect on mistakes they made in playing with fire and getting burnt in the process.  A roll-of-the-dice to choose their MP has now come back to haunt them..a constituency without a voice in Parliament and the estate management will deteriorate without an elected representative.
    Some just have to learnt it the hard way and the condition that Hougang is in will also serve to remind other constituencies to not fall for empty opposition rhetorics.
    Oppositions are simply leveraging on the malleable segment of our population, the intellectually less endowed to sustain their political lives.

  • http://Website(optional) iworkhardsometimes

    taking inspiration from the Catherine Lim vs Goh Chok Tong saga 1994, WP can consider challenging Mr Ho Kah Leong to stand in Hougang SMC in the by-election.

    u not happy? u have something to say? well, go into the ring and prove yourself. if u can convince the voters and if you can carry the ground, if you are right, you win.

  • Ontheroad

    Who is HO Kah LEONG ?is’it the old man selling secondhand goods at sungei road that one.

  • Private Eiyah

    Can Private Eye HO Kah Leong tells us where PHEY YEW KOK and the stolen millions are??
    If not….
    Can we get back to important issues like SMRT break-down. .

  • David

    TOC should expose more of Xin Min Daily prejudiced news so that people will not pay to read craps, especially those coming from HKL. He has been writing lots of political biased perspective similar to those of Chua sisters in the Shit Times.

  • SINGAPORE SLANG

    WHAT DOES THIS SHOW US?
     
    it tells us all that our society leaders prefer to take snipes at our good sgporean oppo rather than show concerns about society's problems that affect their fellow countrymen.
     
    WHY NO FORMER MPs come out to discourse about the socio-economic problems sgporeans are facing as a DIRECT CONSEQUNCE of many of our gahMEN POLCIES? WHY?

  • Jay

    The writer of this article has been very quite for a very long time and I am surpirse that he has written this article. I wonder why?
    Worker's party need not be worried about people like him or Minister Khaw or anyone making press statement questioning WP. WP had already made a clear statement and given explanation. We understand that Mr. Low does not live together with Mr. Yaw and as such, how could he know all the personal live of someone else. Even wifes of husband who two timer does not know till the situation explode in their face. So, WP committee, you did the right thing.
    As for PM, Khaw or whoever said about WP Low taking responsibilities for Yaw infidelities allegation, why did they ot take responsibilities for all the ministers who did wrong,. Did they resign ???
    If this is the norm, isn't this like China Emperor style of decimination the next 3 generation of the criminal of the court ???
    RUBBISH
     

  • Teh Tar Lek

    @ A lesson for Hougang
    I think Singapore will be doomed if our PM act as childish as your thoughts……Our PM will not do as you said as I am sure he is not a person who take such "revenge" on his people….
    Our PM is too caring and concern for the citizens that the thoughts of the people in Hougang having no MP to serve and represent them will drive him crazy…
    What is more critical than serving the people? The country will always have important issues to tackle and the situation in Hougang is surely one of them.
     
     

  • http://TOCSingapore Edward

    The PM & the PAP will try to delay the by-election because holding the by-election is to their disadvantage as they are bound to lose. This has been proven. JBJ won in Anson in 1981. That is why LKY changed the by-election law and there were no by-elections during the past 22 years. Singaporeans including PAP supporters who believe in democracy should protest if the PAP refuses to hold the by-election. Give them 3 months (the original deadline before LKY changed the law ) to decide.

  • dolphin81

    Ho Kah leong was PAP MP for Jurong SMC & Minister from 1966 to 1997.
    He was an unofficial PAP representative for the Chinese-educated uncles.
    Why his sudden interest in HG?
    The only possible reason is that the Chinese-ed uncles have been the core PAP supporters. Now they are beginning to repent & feel there is a need for an opp.
    If the Chinese-ed uncles turn against the PAP, it will mean the end of PAP rule.
    Ho Kah Leong is frightened PAP rule will end with LKY's death.
     
     
     
     

  • 包二奶

    Those PAP supporters, including Ho Kah Leong, who were quick to discredit WP for not knowing the affairs of YSL, are shooting  their own feet.   Why?
    Because it turn out that one previous PAP minister had 包二奶and LKY only knew it after 2 years!!!
    Read more from :
    http://www.malaysia-chinese.com/cgi-bin/czread.pl?file=start&User=&Pass=&board=luntan&group=2&read=messages/2012/02/59189.html
    Now we must go after those PAP dogs and reporters who were quick to smear WP,  to ask them to comment on this ex-PAP minister who had a second wife.

  • We Are the 99%

    I really don't write well and eloquent enough with long sentences, paragraphs  in good grammar and vocabulary.
    All I can simply say, many of the Chinese press journalists are learning to be like their English collegues, how to be prostitutes for PAP members.

  • lorongengkuaman

    PAP should expell SHT for his remarks

  • Tiu Na Singh

    lorongengkuaman :

    "PAP should expell SHT for his remarks"
    No only that.
    Singaporeans should sack PAP for all their wrong doings!
    No talent in all of them .

     

  • CCB

    This HKL fela….I remembered how he poured water for LHL during the post election late night conference many years ago, 100% nu-chye-xiang, slave look. pui!

  • CCB

    btw, what do you expect from this so called artist who can't wait to remarry immediately after his wife death? Still dare to publicise the winter marriage, buay-kian-sio, no shame, pui!

  • please lah

    @包二奶,

    Thank you for the link. Everyone here should read it.

    I am waiting for the mainstream multi media to follow up on this juicy stuff.

  • please lah

    I am also waiting for those trash-writing pap members and supporters here to comment on this juicy stuff mentioned in the link too.

  • I’m Singaporean

    Which leader in the world has no pressing national issues? Do they complain no time to hold by-election?

  • I’m Singaporean

    If a PM is so busy that holding by-election is delayed, does holding General Election barely 3 years after the previous GE, means the PM was so free and had nothing better to do?

  • http://Website(optional) iworkhardsometimes

    蜀中无大将,马谡为先锋。

  • hq

    kah leong was a Nantah grad.  He got no gut to protest against the closing of Nantah and bowed his head to his boss — lky who demolished chinese schools and nantah.
    pap used him to pull votes fr ch-speaking communities in the 80s..
    Senseless.  Just tell pap gov to abolish GE and save huge elections budget.  
    The serious debate degenerated into a farce when Ho started to bark at wp. 
     

  • Now what?

    I hope that Mr. Ho would check his heart and response to the question posed by Mr Low's response to the Forum.

  • KMT

    PAP would like to hush hush all their own "shits" but like to sing all people "shits" to gain political margin.

  • Eugene

    @Ah Gong
    You mean Pastors can take sides and reveal your confessions to the Pap. I don't think so but then how did the allegation came from the Church.
    We urge the Pastors to remain apolitical. Please do not allow the Papigs to infilitrate the Churches. Thanks to the Pastors for their service to Singaporeans.
     
    If this continues I might stop going to Church.

  • http://TOCSingapore Edward

    About 22 years ago, 22 catholic social workers were detained by the govt for neo-marxist activities. When the archbishop GY confided to his fellow priests that he 'was cornered ' to admit their guilts which he had earlier denied, he was summoned to meet LKY again. So, who is more powerful?

  • KMT

    Hello Senior Ex-PAP Mr. Ho Kah Leong we all are waiting for your response to the letter from WP Low Thia Khiang. Or are you waiting for "approval" from someone high official PAP boss to give your the go-ahead to response. For the benefit of doubt if you acted on your own then be brave enough response.

  • KMT

    @ Edward,
    To answer your question as to who is more powerful, of course LKY is more powerful than God himself.

  • http://TOCSingapore Edward

    Ho KL was one of those responsible for compulsory changing the surnames of many Chinese citizens born  around 1982. He said, ' ….the policy to change is irreversible….' But Tony Tan later reverted to dialect surnames owing to strong protest against this policy. Ho KL didn't realise that surnames are very important to the Chinese even though he graduated from Nantah.

  • Alfretz

    'How would Hoh Kah Leong interpret Goh Chok Tong’s resignation after being elected in GE 1991?' Has Ho given his reply yet?

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